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[milkycowco]

anyone?

got any tips or advice you don't mind sharing?

[OrangeMan]

My tip is never share your tips

[Scoots]

Ok here goes:

If you want to earn lets say $1k a week then work backwards from there. First off you need to know what your EPC is (earnings per click).

This is probably the most important figure you can have as its simply how much you earn for every click you send. I looked back at some stats when I was pushing traffic here and over the last 11,021 clicks I sent I earnt $17383 dollars so a pretty decent sample size to work off.

This gives me $1.57 EPC For every single click I send to MN I earn $1.57

Soooo.......If I want $1000 a week I need to send 1000/1.57 = 636 uniques every week to hit my targert.

Now, see what the CTR is across all your sites (click through rate). This gives you the amount of traffic you need in order to send those 636 uniques through to the merchant.

Lets say it averages about 1/10 so now I can multiply my 636 figure by the 10 to give me 6360........SO I need about 6k uniques to my site to earn $1k....this gives me my second EPC of $0.16.

For every single person that lands on my site I get 16 cents. So if you have a site averaging 20 uniques a day then following this rule you will make 0.16 x 20 x 30 =$96 per month off this site. 200 uniques a day and you should be earning $960 a month

OK so far so good, we no know how many uniques we need every week to hit our target figure.

Now the idea is (with SEO) to get enough rankings in order to hit our target amount of surfers. Time for more maths, lets say you get an average of 50% of the traffic avaiable for ranking anywhere in the top 3 for a keyword (anywhere else is pretty much a waste of time.

So to get 6k surfers a week we need to be Top 3 for 12k search volume a week......OR........50k ish search volume a month. This can either be across a few keywords or many hundreds but the goal is to be ranking Top 3 for this amount of search volume a month.

So theres your target, now the difficulty is in ranking for this amount of search volume, in a very competitive market. You won't do it with one site alone, unless you have the best aurhority site ever, but you can do it across several sites.......but in both cases you will need shitloads of content, and a helluva lot of backlinks.

This is where most people slip up, they build a site with 20 or 30 pages get a few links and then cry when they don't make any sales. The simple reason is because they don't have enough content, either ranking for hundreds or thousands of longtails....OR.....some big juicy keywords......in order to get the volume of traffic needed in order to reach their target amount.

You can do it either way, have thousands of pages of high quality content getting bits of search volume.....OR....just go after the bigger keywords.....Or do both

Either way takes a massive amount of work, either creating the volume of content needed, or creating the volume and quality of links need to rank for the bigger keywords.

So there you have it, warts and all with no bullshit hype. Up to you what you think but thats basically how I would go about it to make the dollars here. See what you EPC and then get the amount of traffic needed in order to pull it off. Anyone who says you just put a site up with a bit of content and a few links and you will earn is either a liar or deluded.

Of course other peoples figures are different but at least it gives you an idea.....at the end of the day only your own figures matter, no one elses at all as you have no idea how much it might have cost them in paid traffic to get the EPC.......(EPC minus CPC is profit when doing paid traffic)

EPC is god, nothing else matters. So if you have a shit EPC on certain products forget about them and concentrate on your higher earning EPC products. No amount of hype can hide the facts.

If you can double your EPC by sending better traffic then it means you need half the amount of traffic to hit your target earnings.

Don't be afarid to swap products around as well, I went from less than a dollar EPC to over $2.50 simply by swapping a product for another one, instant massive uptake in earnings for no other work.

Shit I'll stop now I'm even boring myself, sorry

[money in the bank]

[ja1myn]

@Scoots: *applause*

[fosjoh]

@Scoots - in your short abscence from Moreniche we really missed the wisdom you so readily share with others.
Welcome Back !!!

[Jonno09]

f$&*ing awesome post!

[Jhangora]

I think Scoots has summed it up very well. I'd also like to earn this kind of money on a consistent basis. However, I find the Maths involved in it a bit tiresome - so my target is to a get a decent amount of content published. If the content is good, traffic and sales will follow. Of course, once you have content up you'd want to analyze how much you are are making per click and experiment with different products - no escaping that in the long run.

Edited by Jhangora, 07 February 2012 - 05:55 AM.

[Priaa]

@Scoots, amazing post. I wish I could see something like this on my MN affiliate area homepage....

"Hi Priaa, my name is Scoots and I have chosen to be your personal mentor (or coach if you prefer)"

[Phil]

Good post, good info, very well explained .....

[OrangeMan]

I think that village will want its idiot back after that post!


In short - be prepared to work hard if you want good money in this game. Never look at the top affiliates and envy them, they didnt just get lucky - they put in a hell of a lot of blood sweat and tears to get where they are.

[turbo]

Scoots right on the money, great post and well explained.

[The Godfather]

I like the post.

Kudos

[metalopolis]

Great info!

I don't think SEO is for me then. I hate writing plus you need a lot of unique content.
Thanks for saving me a lot of time.

[toomz]

metalopolis, on 07 February 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

I don't think SEO is for me then. I hate writing plus you need a lot of unique content.

Most of the things can be outsourced :-)

[milkycowco]

There must be something wrong.

Something doesn't seem to work out. For a start I would then say my EPC is quite good. Since start of this year to today If I divide my total commission by uniques for one product I'm promoting it works out £1.33, but my stats show the EPC is £0.03??? It think they've converted the ratio percentage figure into a currency value. Am I right? Moreniche might want to check this.

Okay so if Scoots worked out those figures from his own stats they appear kind of similar to mine. For the whole of 2011 I earned £0.173 per visitor to my site, and so far this year it's about £0.105 per visitor.

So all I need to do is get more visitors!!!

[milkycowco]

yeah, I think long tails is all that matter these days since google changed the algorithmn, the merchant websites dominate top spots for the high volume popular search keywords nowadays

[milkycowco]

so whats a good ratio for time spent building content/building links?

60/40, 50/50,70/30 ???

[Scoots]

Priaa, on 07 February 2012 - 07:24 AM, said:

"Hi Priaa, my name is Scoots and I have chosen to be your personal mentor (or coach if you prefer)"

Its more likely to be "Hi Priaa, my name is Scoots and I'm an alcoholic"

OrangeMan, on 07 February 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:

In short - be prepared to work hard if you want good money in this game.

Perfect answer, only way there is. But less of the tips OK

metalopolis, on 07 February 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

I don't think SEO is for me then. I hate writing plus you need a lot of unique content.
Thanks for saving me a lot of time.

Whatever you do takes time and hard work, no easy ways to make money online despite what people tell you.

milkycowco, on 07 February 2012 - 03:45 PM, said:

There must be something wrong.
for one product I'm promoting it works out £1.33, but my stats show the EPC is £0.03??? It think they've converted the ratio percentage figure into a currency value. Am I right? Moreniche might want to check this.

So all I need to do is get more visitors!!!

Yeah take no notice of MN EPC stats, they have never worked properly from day 1, work your own out.

And yes all you need is more visitors

Content + Links = Rankings = Money

That my friend is the only "secret" you ever need to make money with SEO.

milkycowco, on 07 February 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

so whats a good ratio for time spent building content/building links?

60/40, 50/50,70/30 ???

Whatever it takes, start off with 100% content on a site for a month, this will give you 30 to 60 pages of unique quality content if you do it right, then go to 50/50 contant and links till you start getting rankings. Never drop doing content (google loves that) and keep the same link velocity up once you start. No mass link building unless you keep it up at the same pace.

Always remember whatever you do today will not show results for 3 to 6 months, so if you haven't done anything productive today or the rest of the week then you will be in the same position in another 6 months time. If you start properly now then in 6 months you will have a site with 200 pages of content and if each is pulling 5 uniques a day then thats 1000 visitors

Alll theoretical but you get the idea, but don't get hung up on what I wrote, I was mainly getting at the idea that YES of course its possible and hopefully you can now see the potential. Its just takes hard graft (and a bit of luck)....oh and a positive attitude

[milkycowco]

still no reply from the mysterious 'I need a Nick's that purportedly are earning $5000 a week in the Top Performers League Table. Do these guys exist??